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Beer has been listed as one of the Agriculture, food and drink good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.

This article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured article on April 28, 2004.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
March 18, 2004	Featured article candidate	Promoted
March 20, 2005	Featured article review	Demoted
December 12, 2005	Good article nominee	Listed
February 7, 2006	Peer review	Reviewed
June 27, 2006	Featured article candidate	Not promoted
October 17, 2006	Good article reassessment	Delisted
October 14, 2008	Good article nominee	Listed
Current status: Former featured article, current good article

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Beer-word?

From the section "Etymology":

In Old English and Old Norse, the beer-word did not denote a malted alcoholic drink like ale, but a sweet, potent drink made from honey and the juice of one or more fruits other than grapes, much less ubiquitous than ale, perhaps served in the kind of tiny drinking cups sometimes found in early mediaeval grave goods: a drink more like mead or cider. In German, however, the meaning of the beer-word expanded to cover the meaning of the ale-word already before our earliest surviving written evidence. As German hopped ale became fashionable in England in the late Middle Ages, the English word beer took on the German meaning, and thus in English too, beer came during the early modern period to denote hopped, malt-based alcoholic drinks.

What does "the beer-word" mean? Does it mean the literal word "beer" or whatever word meant "beer" in Old English and Old Norse?

This paragraph should be made clearer. JIP | Talk 18:05, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Is the source Scandinavian? That actually looks to me like the way they would phrase it in Norse or Swedish, but it sounds odd in English. More than half of the most common English words in everyday use are Scandinavian in origin, but the influence of French played a larger role in our modern syntax. (Very little is left of its Germanic roots.) If so, then it would be talking about the word beer and the word ale, which is how it should be phrased.

It should probably also be mentioned (if it's not already) that another theory is that it might have come from the Latin word biber, meaning "a drink" (for example, the English word imbibe, meaning "to drink"), although beer was considered an exotic Egyptian drink on the Europe side of the Mediterranean, English has a tendency to adopt words from other languages and twist and change them to fit its own needs. There's no clar consensus, except that the in etymology the transition of a word from one meaning to another is often far more figurative than literal. Zaereth (talk) 00:28, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Page link does not work. 64.189.18.28 (talk) 04:24, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What page link? Please be more specific. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 10:53, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ⸺(Random)staplers 17:01, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ancient anaesthesia

copy/paste (source Alcohols_(medicine)#Ancient_world):

Beer is one of the earliest known ingredients for wound healing. A medical prescription from Mesopotamia describes a method for healing wounds:^[1]^[2]

Pound together fur-turpentine, pine-turpentine, tamarisk, daisy, flour of inninnu strain; mix in milk and beer in a small copper pan; spread on skin; bind on him, and he shall recover.

Add Template:Ancient anaesthesia

--94.255.152.53 (talk) 04:07, 8 October 2024 (UTC) 94.255.152.53 (talk) 04:07, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wound healing is not anaesthesia? Would we expect to add any template to the articles for each of those ingredients? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:56, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Shah, JB (September 2011). "The history of wound care". The Journal of the American College of Certified Wound Specialists. 3 (3): 65–6. doi:10.1016/j.jcws.2012.04.002. PMC 3601883. PMID 24525756.
^ Broughton G, Janis JE, Attinger CE (2006). "A Brief History of Wound Care". Plastic and Reconstructive Surgery. 117 (7 Suppl): 6S–11S. doi:10.1097/01.prs.0000225429.76355.dd. PMID 16799371.

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change "numerous types of plants, spices, and other substances such as narcotic herbs, to numerous types of plants, spices, and other substances such as narcotic herbs, also known as gruit, that when heated incorrectly could cause hallucinations, and the specific mixtures were varied from brewer to brewer." Anthropol0gyinterest (talk) 00:49, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Encoded Talk 💬 20:25, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA concerns

I am concerned that this article no longer meets the good article criteria. Some of my concerns are outlined below:

The article has several uncited statements, including entire paragraphs.
I don't think the lead summarises all major aspects of the article.
The formatting could be improved. Some sections are quite long and could be broken up with additional headings (my recommendations is four paragraphs maximum before a new heading) while the "Top-fermented beers" section has short one-or-two line paragraphs that should be merged together.

Is anyone willing to address these concerns, or should this go to WP:GAR? Z1720 (talk) 03:55, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Shah, JB (September 2011). "The history of wound care". The Journal of the American College of Certified Wound Specialists. 3 (3): 65–6. doi:10.1016/j.jcws.2012.04.002. PMC 3601883. PMID 24525756.

[2] Broughton G, Janis JE, Attinger CE (2006). "A Brief History of Wound Care". Plastic and Reconstructive Surgery. 117 (7 Suppl): 6S–11S. doi:10.1097/01.prs.0000225429.76355.dd. PMID 16799371.

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